Pros and Cons: Asphalt vs. How Much Does It Cost to Pave a Driveway? The only traffic they get are a few local walkers and their dogs. Prop them up with broken bricks. That is just here. It is agreed that proper thickness, application and maintenance is necessary for duration. For concrete, heat can cause crumbling and cracks, especially if the concrete is not kept damp and covered in the summer during curing. As with any contracting job, material is important, but craftsmanship is paramount. Just do it right with tampers, oil your forms and make the right joints and you will have one amazing driveway you can park anything on. You can request whatever strength you want. The more uneven and soft the ground is then the more cracks from settling.
Well i know being young i dont have anywhere near half the experiance as many on here. This property of concrete is the reason steel reinforcing is used to handle the tensile loads when they are present. When a motorcycle is parked on it the kick stand sinks into the driveway. Ultimately it is the homeowners decision, but you will get more bang for your buck with concrete. Asphalt may promote a more slippery surface for basketball purposes, expecially when wet. All the driveways in my neck of the woods are concrete BUT very few do not have cracks. At least someone is making sense.
Say, one right down the middle and transverse at 8 foot apart. ALL concrete is cracked. The choice is simple, for durability, longevity and enhancing property values, concrete is the way to go. Concrete is the superior material of the two by far. Concrete is the best material because it wears better, looks better etc. The base needs to be thoroughly compacted! To finish it off, we had stress cuts put through all of it and sealed off each cut with the best sealer on the market.
For a perfect example of Roman engineering in concrete, just look to the Pantheon. Our driveway is in very poor condition now. My driveway is also brick pavers. It continues to cure in small amounts over a very long period of time. Ask your concrete mixer outfit who the best finishers are, who care about their work, and they will tell you. Ask yourself this, does your kickstand sink in the lot at the grocery store? Temperatures during those 2 days of installation were 90 to 93 degrees. There is a basic formula to proper concreting techniques when we talk about control joints.
Whether the slab is of three or four thousand psi concrete will have little or no effect when it comes to cracking. Tregoe decision analysis chart and then choose accordingly. Asphalt has an advantage IF it is coated in the fall. Replacing asphalt a couple of times in your lifetime and maintaining it every few years will still cost considerably less. Welded wire fabric is not reinforcing steel. Frostline area for 40 years, asphalt always made more sense. They also used the ash and pumice from the regional volcanoes which made for a cheaper more durable concrete. In northern snow belt climate, concrete driveways deteriorate and erode more quickly because of the road salts that highway departments apply to highways that drip off the cars parked in the driveways.
Concrete will continue to get harder over many years. Then, trowel it again. Concrete finishes always dictates a slabs durability. However, Asphalt will eventually start coming apart after about five years. Other factors not mentioned here are expansive soil, soil high in alkaline content and the effects of ground freeze. Both require a stone base that is compacted and allows for drainage.
You and everyday you live are a environmental hazard. However, cheaper mixes and improper installation are the usual culprits. Asphalt is more pliable and allows for movement better than concrete. The duty cycle surpasses the asphalt by decades. Some have suggested a higher psi or cement ratio which is good to a point. Concrete does not need a base. Asphalt, he says, can handle the extreme temperature fluctuations in the Northeast better than concrete because it flexes. Also the many statements about ice melting better in winter for pavement, what happens to your pavement in summer when its 100 degrees and your trailer jack is on it. The purpose is to leave the surface as porous as possible so the water will drain right through the concrete. If your biggest vehicle is a car, truck, boat or RV, then 2000 or 2500 psi is good.
Contract engineering guidance if the job is large enough and then get a competent contractor. My asphalt driveway is only one and a half years old on a new construction house. My neighbor has an asphalt driveway and mine is concrete. What is alternative to do it properly? Although pavers can offer a practical impervious surface to enhance drainage, pavers offer zero structural integrity when installed over standard aggregate bases. Also of no surprise, sealing the cracks was marginally successful at best. The formation of Ice between or below pavement tends to break it. We had a top notch Mason come in and do the work with his team. Generally, you will get what you pay for. That being said, concrete costs here on expansive soils are quite a bit higher.
Where I live it turns out that the maintenance on asphalt, brick and stone ends up being cheaper then the assessed taxes you will paid every year on the concrete driveway, something you should look into before paving is your local tax codes on concrete. Old asphalt can be paved over so long as it is in adequate conditions, however if the existing pavement is very cracked then the new pavement will crack directly over those existing cracks. The base under the pavement is very important to longevity and the material is inexpensive. Note: A solvent or acrylic sealer is shiney, but provides the longest protection between applications. The easiest is to spray concrete curing compound which is just mineral oil with a fancy name and price tag. We have everything from a little topsoil over a thick limestone base to a lot of clay that expands and contracts with ever sprinkle of rain. There are people, at least in Salt Lake City area who can drill holes in the concrete and pump a clay mixture in to fill voids. The paint is impervious to staining from groundwater salts, and about five years later it is still in very good condition.
The streets are asphalt, seal coated. May be you know some additional tips or tricks for stability. Concrete suffers from the January Thaw, around the third week of that month. Yes, more expensive than asphalt but a much better return on investment. Which brings me to my final point, your base, concrete and asphalt both MUST be placed on a solid base if you intend for them to last. Where I live if you put in a concrete driveway the yearly taxes on your house will be increased any other type used to make a driveway like asphalt, brick cobble stone will not be taxed.
Chopped fiber glass is good admixture for expansion under sun loading. Pervious concrete is a pea gravel mix, poured extremely dry, and typically rolled on with a roller to flatten it out. My property had a gradual slope. But I agree cobbles are better but also good brick pavers are superior. The cost of pavers was 6 times the cost of asphalt. Any advice would be appreciated. When I decided to replace the driveway, I considered both asphalt and concrete.
Both installed in 2004. For smaller jobs, concrete is the way to go. Whether it was the loss of money of the tree or the equipment used to remove it, my driveway ended up getting a few stress cracks. For asphalt, it will flow out but no always back. Some of the gravel I created by busting up concrete slaps. We own our streets and sidewalks and they have suffered as much if not more than other construction elements. It will be interesting to see whether the rubber from the tires of vehicles driven over the painted surface will cause permanent marking; but I would assume that if any marks are left, they too can be painted over again periodically.
This occurs with black pavement such as asphalt. Also the higher the water ratio the lower the psi strength, air pockets form in the capillaries of the concrete allowing for easier moisture migration which promotes efflorescence and higher rate of deterioration from freeze thaw. Soil type, amount of base needed, type of material used for base, what kind of vehicle traffic will park and drive on the driveway, drainage conditions, etc. The reason for that, weeds will destroy the asphalt after a time. The city road to my house is red brick and it is superior to the asphalt and concrete roads elsewhwere in the city that need constant maintenance. The asphalt contractor suggested for me to go to a local nursery and buy some kind of powdered chemical to lay down before the asphalt was layed. But I would like to know some facts before asking our contractor about provided installation process. If you like how concrete looks then go with it. The strengths referred to when grading concrete ts a measure of the compression properties of the material. Concrete has virtually no strength when it comes to resisting tensile loads, which is more in the range of 100 psi.
Ready mix is OK. Your problem of a sinking kickstand is normal in private driveways because most paving companies that do residential work typically do shoddy work. In time, the pea gravel comes loose and breaks off in spots, especially when cars drive on it and vehicles turn their tires on it. My husband always said that was because the contractors had no real idea how to put in cement driveways at homes. But since it costs 2x as much the question is will it last 2x as long. There is a lot of good information in this thread IF you wade out the extremists on both sides of their arguments. November and November 15th is when companies around here close for the winter. Frost and heat are the two most destructive forces for roadways. Live in the New England.
Since I did this type work for 40 years I know of what I speak. All its strength is in compression. After reading the various comments, I find I made the right decision about 5 years ago when I replaced my 25 yr old concrete driveway in bad condition with concrete pavers. The thing to remember here is that when you form your driveway, patio, sidewalk, etc. Now after 20 years I do have some wear, have owned some heavy trucks, but going to replace next spring with Asphalt again. There are stories of breakwaters in old Roman ports where the aggregate rocks wore away before the hydraulic concrete itself. To begin with, this can be a problem in most any state in hot conditions. And of course the weather which is moderate and damp. You are fighting over global warming and politics; yet, all you want is to pave your driveway?
Slab foundations in this environment require much engineering to make them stable and not end up in pieces. The cost of concrete was 4 to 5 times the cost of asphalt. The other BIG concern for me is that asphalt is too hot to walk on barefooted during the summer months, while concrete is fine. Portland Cement sidewalks by lifting them and placing gravel under them. Cure it for 7 days. My husband worked for the Portland Cement Association for 38 years. If the SOG were to crack it would do so inside the control joint and not crooked like all the driveways in town. Did all the work myself. The Romans had a version of Hydraulic Concrete that has remained useful for over 2000 years.
Moreover, if you lay a slag or compacted gravel bed underneath it, you will be almost assured of no cracks for a decade or more, depending on what part of the country you live in. This is one reason that you have to start mowing your asphalt after it gets a crack, because of grass or weeds. Yup, they required the structural integrity to come from concrete, and the pavers to create the visual affect they desired. Any ideas would be appreciated. This messes with the mix that was done at the plant and can cause a lot of problems. Seems like the home buyer or owner needs to go to the rental store and man up to a wacker packer! And the new debate now is asphalt versus concrete to replace the rapidly wearing sidewalks. Concrete is infinitely superior to asphalt if installed correctly. The more cement, the more hydration equals more shrinkage.
The bottom line for a consumer is to make sure whoever places your concrete keeps the water ratio at the proper level. Wire them together at each intersection. As many of you are aware, it can get extremely hot in the desert Southwest, and the buckling and rutting of asphalt is a common occurance. Our driveway consists of brick pavers instead of concrete, thereby eliminating the cracks so prevalent here in a subtropical climate. As an employee of that company, he did testing of the use, stability, strength and feasibility of that material as used in airport runways, driveways, bridges, expressways and buildings. But one big added cost your did not put up on here is your yearly assessed Taxes.
Unfortunately the failures in slabs are almost always due to a tensile force that is caused by a bending action. Finishers should not use steel trowels to seal the surface during final finishing of external concrete. Architectural firms around the country. Had four homes over my 57 years, with only the last having Asphalt. May be I asked too much but thank you for any answer. The painted surface is slightly more slippery than bare concrete, but unless you are foolish enough to run on it with wet feet or in the rain, this is of no importance. Also a blacktop asphalt driveway absorbs the heat of the sunlight and melts off snow and ice more quickly that a concrete driveway. For clarity, the wetter it is, the weaker it is. PCC is not glue.
In almost all cases, residential paving is done as thin and possible to save money. If the base is prepared right, the concrete is mixed right and it is poured correctly, it will last a long time. For one, if there is too much water added to the mix, it will rise to the surface and weaken the concrete surface so that it will spall not difficult. If your asphalt will last 20 years and your concrete will last 40 years then its a wash and you should not care. When I plow my driveway in the winter for snow with my tractor bucket, I do not even scratch the surface. The higher the water ratio the more shrinkage will occur.
It ALWAYS paid off. If the base is shifting away and down, tell tale cracks may also appear on the walls materials, and that could be potential trouble for the structure itself. There is no such thing as an unreinforced SOG. Like real estate, the key is location location location. If it snows a couple inches at night, I do not bother to plow as the asphalt will heat up during the day and melt it away. The result has exceeded my most optimistic expectations. Michael: Yes, help please. It was hard work and took a long time but the result is rewarding. Cut control joints about every 8 foot.
Could you give me some advice about concrete driveway at 6200ft elevation. Not only unsightly, but a huge hazard. As a concrete mixer driver for 20 years I have to disagree with you on the pervious concrete. The psi of their wheels was minimal, but grooves still exist where metal rims were used on chariots. It cannot be compared to concrete on that basis. In fact people here that replace there concrete driveway with another type can call the local tax assessor to come down and get a new tax assessment to reduce there yearly taxes. Now I have to seal this thing on a steady bases. It is very informative. Concrete is bad in Florida.
The oil floats on the water and keeps the curing slab wet. Just a little information for anybody thinking about asphalt instead of concrete. In talking to the buyer a few years back, there has been no problem with weeds. Concrete is sand, stone, cement and water. This brings the paste to the top. It is basically junk that needs to be replaced.
When I lived in California, I needed a driveway to get my motor home in a building I had built at the bottom of my property. There will be numerous cracks throughout the length of the walkway and if you add up the thickness of each crack it will add up to the inch. My driveway and garage area were backfilled with frozen chunks in below freezing temps. Except nothing but the best workmanship. Four Inch slab on any drive in this area of NC. It is hard, durable and maintenance free. This can be different from state to state or city to city. Seeing the cracks that had occured, he said he could patch the cracks and then stain again inorder to keep the patches camouflaged.
We fear a future sewer line problem that will require immediate attention when it happens. Another advantage with paint is that it will be an effective barrier against the corrosive effects of any salts the driveway is exposed to in the wintertime. The concrete while being poured must have minimal water added. Rented a concrete cutter, compactor and brick cutter as needed. But if the concrete will last even 39 years, you are better off to go with asphalt. Concrete is very susceptible to deterioration with standing water containing salts which may be worsened when vehicles are parked on the surface with melt of the road cheese. When the time comes to install a new driveway, the biggest decision is whether to use concrete or asphalt.
So much so that eventually they put concrete in those areas to stop it. Never been any maintenance on that other than occasional clearing out of tree roots in individual sections. Next, we had rebar put in for strength, then they finally poured in top quality concrete I could find. Concrete done right will last a very long time with no problems and it will outlast asphalt by many years. SOG will last 100 years. Shrinkage can not be controlled by reinforcement. One drawback, if you have a car or truck that leaks oil, the spots are almost impossible to remove since pavers are more porous than concrete. Just try getting truckers to bleed air from their tires; futile. Many factors to consider before making a decision on what type material you want for a driveway. Although concrete might be more expensive, it lasts longer.
Some have explained the reasons why concrete cracks but no one explains the main reason concrete cracks and that is shrinkage. Of course, my husband would tell you that there is no comparison between the strength of asphalt and concrete. Asphalt Concrete is more flexible than Portland Concrete, groves can develop over time. Lastly, my driveway is in the sun. In the process, an 80 yo tree in my front yard was taken down. Skimp now on the base, pay later with cracking. Decent coments by TP. The benefits of a 4000 psi mix will be diluted by too much water added. Heat causes expansion for both materials.
There are so many ways to answer this so I will provide some wisdom from someone who has built hundreds of road pads and other items from both materials. Once that ratio is overblown by excessive water content, the mix is doomed to only minimal longevity. In the frost zones, cracking destroys both materials by allowing water into the pavement and freezing. Poly or straw or wet sand will work. An important consideration in pouring concrete is to make sure the truck driver pours it as it was mixed at the plant. If this is so, I suggest an extra and occasional check of the garage, not of the concrete, but the walls. Vibrate the mud into the pour and tap the outside of any exposed forms to prevent voids. Given the higher initial cost of concrete, and the higher property tax rate, it becomes significantly more expensive in the long term. Any driveway will crack.
My road is the same bricks as over 100 years ago when they were placed there. The color was chosen with the aim of providing high reflectivity, but without it being so bright that the glare on a sunny day would be excessive. Drainage and good base was key. Other considerations between concrete and asphalt exist when utilization is beyond the sole purpose of vehicle transport. Architect specify pavers for a serious driveway application, had a CONCRETE slab specified to support it! All have an adverse effect on concrete. Asphalt needs more maintenance, but is generally easier to repair. No stains, no discolorations, cracks filled. Hemet, CA and there is one crossroad that buckles on all sides when the trucks come to a stop. AC cooling costs compared with something like a light grey.
They get salt, snow plows and everything and just look beautiful as ever. We had a layer of heavy crushed gravel laid down and tamped. Several years ago the city decided to replace several asphalt bus stops with concrete. There is no comparative strength in asphalt. The weight of city rapid transit vehicles does not help the situation. You have a nice little hole now. Following the successful outcome of my experiment with painting the pool deck, I applied a similar treatment to the concrete paths around the house, with equally good results. Many sidewalk areas are down to the aggregate. The asphalt is in terrible shape; cracks through to the soil, many low spots that collect water, and all along the foundation of the house the asphalt has separated and cracked so that water seeps in to the basement.
To be fair to all types of paving materials, I think geographical location should be an important factor in the equation of paving a driveway. You have to check and see what the building codes and tax rates are where you live. During times of high oil prices, asphalt is more expensive. If the binder is too thin for the heat the whole road surface deforms and distorts. Your insights are very helpful. Most of the cost comes in hauling and placing it. House built in 1895. Bottom line, 6 months to the day, the drive way developed 14 cracks in it at last count. Bottom line, Your choice.
What have you done to minimize your environmental and carbon foot print? They sound like a couple of legislative bodies. We planning to replace it. Does anybody know of a environmentally friendly driveway product? The structural comparison of the two are heavily weighted to concrete. We all know about. Yes, the base prep is probably the most important factor in a long lasting driveway with concrete or asphalt. Roman roads have lasted millennia because they put in three layers of large to small stones bottom to top, with the equivalent of pavers on top. If the area to be paved is close to your basement wall there is the possibility that the roller used to compact the Asphalt Concrete could damage the basement walls. Was a regional show place, now lots of wear and tear.
In the south, a compacted sand base is typical. Been a concrete contractor for 35 years and most of the information I see posted is correct but some, I believe is incorrect. An inch in length. Asphalt much more over concrete. Concrete is totally recyclable. This worked for me when I was there. Also, place quality ahead of quantity. It was a research and development arm of the portland cement industry member companies. Two main things help reduce cracks, one, the dryer you pour concrete then the less shrinkage, hence cracks and two, good even and compact surface to pour on. The bottom line is what do you like and what can you afford?
Concrete will last longer. Coating in the summer does not fill all the cracks. Much better than dirt roads. Mike Taylor of Taylor Made Contracting in Weymouth, Massachusetts. It was done in asphalt very pourly and was a constent maintenance nightmare. It is only as good as its base.
We have started removing them one at a time in the worst cases, grinding the stumps, but much more needs to be done. If the expansion joints do not give, concrete buckles. There is an enormous amount of knowledge of the science of cement technology that is necessary in order to assess the proper methods to be used in any and all construction. Curbs are stone as well and look great still too. The drivers like to add water to make it flow better. SOG does not exist. There are a half dozen or so ingredients to asphalt, but those ingredients can be manipulated dramatically. How about a positive post? But once the job gets bigger than a thousand or so square feet, you need to seriously consider asphalt.
The animals and grandchildren do not have to worry about their feet burning. Also, sealing cracks in the control joints running through the slab will prevent water from seeping underneath. RELATED: Pros and Cons of Concrete vs. One common option involves stamping a pattern into the materials, creating a faux paver. Clay pavers feature a deeper, more vibrant color than concrete pavers, Calistro says. However, some differences exist. If homeowners reseal the asphalt driveway every three years, it will last about 20 years, according to the National Asphalt Pavement Association. Concrete driveways should be at least 4 inches thick to support regular vehicles and at least 5 inches thick for heavier trucks, according to the American Concrete Pavement Association. As a homeowner in Northern NJ I find dealing with the asphalt folks on a rip out and replace to be some of the most difficult folks to work with in trying to find an honest and reputable contractor. If the base was properly installed, they should last for decades, he adds.
MORE: Are Paver Driveways More Durable than Concrete? If properly maintained, a concrete driveway can last for about 30 years and continue to cure and harden, says Prisciliano Anaya, president of Anaya Concrete in Denver. None of the folks that I called want to rip out a driveway and install a driveway according to the National Asphalt Pavement Association guidelines which is disheartening. Concrete requires less maintenance, and it looks nicer. Scot Leggett, owner of Leggett Asphalt in Tualatin, Oregon. Homeowners also can add decorative elements to concrete and asphalt driveways. Asphalt is stronger than an equal depth of concrete, and much stronger than concrete that is not fortified with rebar or wire mesh.
But concrete requires less maintenance than asphalt, Anaya says. Some contractors disagree, but he argues thicker is better. Clay pavers sometimes cost twice as much, and unlike concrete pavers, they only come in one shape, he adds. You pay only for the additional raw material, making a thicker paving job a great value. It is good to have choices! Both require little to no upkeep, though concrete pavers require sealing every five to seven years, Calistro says. Contractors consider asphalt one of the cheapest options. Both clay and concrete pavers feature incredible strength, says Frank Calistro, owner of Old World Brick Paving in River Grove, Illinois. Look at the surrounding asphalt driveways I see a lot of poor workmanship.
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